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> Resperate needs to fix BPM going too low ASAP
Mike Gol
post Apr 3 2008, 02:36 PM
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I have read all the user coments and suggestions on this forum, and at least 50% of them keep commenting on the fact that the machine allows the user to go to a LOWER BPM then they are confortable doing.
There is NO CONFORTABLE way to increase the BPM during a session. The current unit seems to be the THIRD version of the Resperate device.
Even in 2005, people were complaining about this problem. I believe Resperate needs to IMMEDIATEL
resolve this serious defect in the design.
Read all the comments for yourselves. I have tried all sorts of technics... breathing ahead of the tones, faster breathing...there is a lag of at least 1 minute , if the machine even responds.
Then it might zoom up to 15 BPM after being near 5 BPM.
The BPM increase on the display BUT the tones do NOT occur faster... but sometimes they do...
Sensor is reading 97% good reads. I feel Resperate CANNOT fail to address this problem VERY soon.
The defect goes against the goal of the device... breath CONFORTABLY at below 10 BPM.
Resperate needs to allow user setting of the lowest BPM the machine will go to.
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post Apr 3 2008, 04:31 PM
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Mike,
This version had been modified to make it more difficult to get below the 5BPM spot. We can not put a stop at 5BPM, because there are some people who truly can breathe below 5bpm comfortably. The reason the device would bring a person down to a lower breathing rate is if it is "sensing" that you are keeping up with the tones. What I find, often, is that a person has wonderful stats. Synch=90% or higher. Detection=90% or higher. However, these people are also not getting a sustained reduction in their blood pressure. Here's the thing & you really have to visualize it. I have been to many trade shows and conventions and see this all the time. You are sitting, following the tones, maybe even stuttering as you are breathing. In a way, you are forcing yourself to keep up with the tones. It feels you are and then it will bring you down lower. When you are truly relaxed, then your synch may not be as high as 90%, but you "feel" like you are on point. This is truly hard to visualize and it has been suggested that we provide a demo online for people to see all this.
Your points have all been taken. This is valuable feedback which I will forward to the appropriate people.
Breathe Easy!
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Mike Gol
post Apr 4 2008, 07:57 AM
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I appreciate that some people might be able to go below 5 or 6 BPM, and the device needs to be able to go there.
BUT... for those who cant, there needs to be a way to stop or set ahead the lowest BPM that the unit will go to.
THen you will have the best of both worlds... go really LOW or STOP when you feel confortable.
The device idea is very good... and would work REALLY well if thes fixes were used..
Going out of Sync too long causes the voice to say "Adjust the belt" even with the voice off.. which is of course very annoying.
Also the voice is TOO LOUD compared with the tones... another distraction
Lowering the time to 10 min doesnt help because I'm at 6.5 BPM in 5-6 min. , which I find too low
Then its either fight to breath slower in confort or fight to breath faster to increase the tone rate... but not too much. Plus there is too long a lag between faster breathing and tone rate increase, even when the display shows a 9 BPM value... the tone rate still remains at the same SLOW last value.
Its hard to understand why after 3 versions of Resperate, this problem hasn't been fixed.
Its too bad such a good product has such a fatal flaw.... I will probably have to stop using the device since it causes me MORE stress to use......
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post Apr 4 2008, 08:12 AM
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Sometime my BPM goes below 5 but I do fine. However, I agree that it would be a nice feature to be able to have the user set a lower limit.

I aslo agree that the voice is too loud compared to the tones.

I would also prefer a female voice, or the option of selecting one or two voices. No disrespect intended to the voice on the machine.
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post Apr 4 2008, 01:35 PM
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QUOTE (JBC @ Apr 4 2008, 09:12 AM) *
Sometime my BPM goes below 5 but I do fine. However, I agree that it would be a nice feature to be able to have the user set a lower limit.

I aslo agree that the voice is too loud compared to the tones.

I would also prefer a female voice, or the option of selecting one or two voices. No disrespect intended to the voice on the machine.


Guys, have you tried taking off your headsets and just breathing comfortably? This will bring the machine around to your rhythm.
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post Apr 9 2008, 08:51 AM
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QUOTE (JBC @ Apr 4 2008, 09:12 AM) *
Sometime my BPM goes below 5 but I do fine. However, I agree that it would be a nice feature to be able to have the user set a lower limit.

I aslo agree that the voice is too loud compared to the tones.

I would also prefer a female voice, or the option of selecting one or two voices. No disrespect intended to the voice on the machine.


JBC,
Very interesting feedback. Point taken with the getting below 5BPM. This comes up often enough & I've already started by reporting this feedback to our R&D Team in Israel.
As far as the voice being too loud compared to the tones, interesting. I've never heard that one before. This issue hasn't been brought up.
As far as the voice, we get mixed reviews on that. According to surveys and feedback, majority prefer the male voice. Many men say they wouldn't want a female voice, because it reminds them of their, well, "loved-one". We had a response from some women who are in battered shelters who say they don't like the sound of a male voice "telling them what to do".
Whether you like the voice or not, at least you can mute it! (wish that function worked in real life with real people (IMG:http://forum.resperate.com/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
All in all, you've made some great points & your comments are appreciated and will be forwarded to the appropriate people.
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post Apr 26 2008, 10:13 PM
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I agree it be nice to be able to set a lower limit -- it also be nice to just set a BPM rate and then to follow that.
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post Apr 28 2008, 02:29 PM
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Ok, all points taken.
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post Jan 14 2009, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE (marguerite @ Apr 3 2008, 01:31 PM) *
Mike,
This version had been modified to make it more difficult to get below the 5BPM spot. We can not put a stop at 5BPM, because there are some people who truly can breathe below 5bpm comfortably. The reason the device would bring a person down to a lower breathing rate is if it is "sensing" that you are keeping up with the tones. What I find, often, is that a person has wonderful stats. Synch=90% or higher. Detection=90% or higher. However, these people are also not getting a sustained reduction in their blood pressure. Here's the thing & you really have to visualize it. I have been to many trade shows and conventions and see this all the time. You are sitting, following the tones, maybe even stuttering as you are breathing. In a way, you are forcing yourself to keep up with the tones. It feels you are and then it will bring you down lower. When you are truly relaxed, then your synch may not be as high as 90%, but you "feel" like you are on point. This is truly hard to visualize and it has been suggested that we provide a demo online for people to see all this.
Your points have all been taken. This is valuable feedback which I will forward to the appropriate people.
Breathe Easy!
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Interesting comments. I just stated in another thread that I tend to enter an altered state of consciousness with the Resperate. When I get into a deep state I find myself trying to pull the Resperate tempo slower. This is just the opposite of what initially happened. But as my breathing gets more and more relaxed and softer I just naturally keep slowing down to the point where I sometimes start running into the inspiration tone on my expiration phase which is still in progress.

In another thread I also suggested voice options including a female voice as well as tone/chime options for the therapeutic phase and exit.
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post Jan 21 2009, 02:06 PM
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Surprisingly enough, based on our surveys, statistical data shows an overwhelming preference of the male voice to a female voice! WHO KNEW!!???
But, I'm sure that we will be working on a model that gives you options.
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