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Aug 17 2007, 11:39 AM
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One thing I like about resperate is that if I take my before and after session blood pressure readings, I often find it encouraging that I often get dramatic improvements. For example, I might have 160/95 reading, then after resperate session it might come in as 122/82 reading. So, I began to wonder, can I drive it lower still with more sessions. So, the other day, after I brought down a reading, I waited half an hour, did another session, and then waited another half hour and did still another session. The follow-up sessions did not have as much effect as first session but after the third session I was down to 112/74. I've had since then several success like this, but then also had a few failure days when the BP refused to change even after three sessions. I have noticed that it seems to be more effective if I'm starting from a higher value. If starting say around 125/84 or something like that I won't tend to get as dramatic a result. However, some days I could see no difference in either my technique or starting values and yet it wouldn't respond. So, there must be other factors at work.
Of course, I'm still hoping that these sessions are delivering a long term benefit even if not always seeing a short term impact. I've definitely had BP improvement, I'm now coming in week 4. I've also been looking at the recovery time, after dropping the blood pressure. I had expected that it would in 10 or 15 minutes recover to the initial readings. I discovered a lot of variability in this too. Some days it does indeed return in a few minutes to initial readings but on other days after I had worked it down, it stayed down. For example, yesterday, after workdown I checked each hour for 4 hours and blood pressure readings remained essentially unchanged around 117/ 74 each time. It interesting that in this 4 hours I wasn't by any means resting, I went out for a bike ride, cooked supper, watched a movie and did some Tai Chi. if there are other experimenters out there -- I be interested in what they finding. |
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Dec 4 2007, 12:51 PM
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One thing I like about resperate is that if I take my before and after session blood pressure readings, I often find it encouraging that I often get dramatic improvements. For example, I might have 160/95 reading, then after resperate session it might come in as 122/82 reading. So, I began to wonder, can I drive it lower still with more sessions. So, the other day, after I brought down a reading, I waited half an hour, did another session, and then waited another half hour and did still another session. The follow-up sessions did not have as much effect as first session but after the third session I was down to 112/74. I've had since then several success like this, but then also had a few failure days when the BP refused to change even after three sessions. I have noticed that it seems to be more effective if I'm starting from a higher value. If starting say around 125/84 or something like that I won't tend to get as dramatic a result. However, some days I could see no difference in either my technique or starting values and yet it wouldn't respond. So, there must be other factors at work. Of course, I'm still hoping that these sessions are delivering a long term benefit even if not always seeing a short term impact. I've definitely had BP improvement, I'm now coming in week 4. I've also been looking at the recovery time, after dropping the blood pressure. I had expected that it would in 10 or 15 minutes recover to the initial readings. I discovered a lot of variability in this too. Some days it does indeed return in a few minutes to initial readings but on other days after I had worked it down, it stayed down. For example, yesterday, after workdown I checked each hour for 4 hours and blood pressure readings remained essentially unchanged around 117/ 74 each time. It interesting that in this 4 hours I wasn't by any means resting, I went out for a bike ride, cooked supper, watched a movie and did some Tai Chi. if there are other experimenters out there -- I be interested in what they finding. I've seen a similar effect for a single session, though I haven't studied it to the same level of detail and have not done multiple back to back sessions. Do you have any further updates on your experiments? With single sessions, I see about 15 point drop most of the time, though sometimes I see no drop. Usually in these cases I am not able to fully relax and spend the 15 minutes thinking about what I need to do, etc. instead of relaxing. My breath rate does always drop though. I start at about 12 and end at 5. I'm also in excellent shape aerobically (I like to run). Also, I have only been doing the resperate for about 3-4 weeks. I'll try out multiple sessions and see if I see similar result. |
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Mar 1 2008, 11:57 AM
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My grandfather lived to be 100 years old. My grandmothers on both sides lived to be in their 80's. They ate pigs feet, chitterlings, fried chicken and everything else doctors say are bad for you, especially if you are African American. But they raised and killed the pigs and chickens themselves. No middle man intervention. They grew watermelons, tomatos, potatos, strawberries, raspberries, collard greens, string beans right on their property in the South.
African Americans ate all types of fried foods and very fattening foods. Then they read the stories in the news and magazines and they stopped eating them for the most part. They stopped eating salt. It is very strange that when we stopped doing all the things surveys say are bad for us, we get more high blood pressure than ever before. It doesn't make sense. It can't be just the food, however. The air, the water, the hormones that are put in food and the soil content must be contributing to this sudden rash of high blood pressure and probably other diseases also that were not around in the 30's, 40's and 50's to the extent they are now. To cut down on the dying, the Federal Government should conduct surveys that involve what happened in the early years and what is going on now. For all our sakes. |
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Mar 1 2008, 12:35 PM
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My grandfather lived to be 100 years old. My grandmothers on both sides lived to be in their 80's. They ate pigs feet, chitterlings, fried chicken and everything else doctors say are bad for you, especially if you are African American. But they raised and killed the pigs and chickens themselves. No middle man intervention. They grew watermelons, tomatos, potatos, strawberries, raspberries, collard greens, string beans right on their property in the South. African Americans ate all types of fried foods and very fattening foods. Then they read the stories in the news and magazines and they stopped eating them for the most part. They stopped eating salt. It is very strange that when we stopped doing all the things surveys say are bad for us, we get more high blood pressure than ever before. It doesn't make sense. It can't be just the food, however. The air, the water, the hormones that are put in food and the soil content must be contributing to this sudden rash of high blood pressure and probably other diseases also that were not around in the 30's, 40's and 50's to the extent they are now. To cut down on the dying, the Federal Government should conduct surveys that involve what happened in the early years and what is going on now. For all our sakes. I see your point, Redphilly. I believe the complications of modern life contribute to the break down of our bodies -- and then we're given drugs, rather than the root causes being determined. Good luck to you. Angel |
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Mar 16 2008, 08:02 PM
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I also take my blood pressure before and after and am keeping a record of my readings. I believe the drop in my readings is because I'm sitting still for about 15 minutes without anything on my mind. I lead a very stressful life and do hyperventilate much of the time. Resperate allows me to really relax. This evening I used Resperate with my biofeedback program(including sensors) and sure enough, the reduced breathing lowered my stress levels. It was actually fun watching my numbers on the computer screen dropping down. I didn't detect much difference in my heartbeat because the difference between a stressed heartbeat and a relaxed heartbeat isn't depicted in a graph in this particular program.
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